The Stinky Marsh Crab
Located at Crown Beach, Robert W. Crown Memorial Park, Alameda, CA.
For Directions go www.ebparks.org/parks/crown.html
Park at the visitor's center on McKay Ave.
This is a hybrid box.
Follow the walkway heading southeast.
The land of the rocks will be on your right.
The guards of the rocks are very protective, so don't go there.
Walk past the mariner in the lagoon.
Find the way to the secluded pool.
Walk over the wooden bridge.
On the right, just after the bridge, hidden in the cattails is the
way you must go.
Be brave, you are almost there.
Now, to the land of the licorice plants, take the path on the left.
Towards the far end of the row is where you must go.
Hidden down low in the licorice plants is where the marsh crab likes
to hide.
Enjoy the beach!
Contents of the box:
Sebastian the crab
Pegasus
Some small insects
A couple of greeting cards
Golf tees
Scooby-Doo band-aids
Superball
A small bag of toys
To Jay Drew , CA: new box in S.F.Bay Area
8 messages in this thread |
Started on 2002-08-10
To Jay Drew , CA: new box in S.F.Bay Area
From: lizardbuttsfamily (mmebt@hotmail.com) |
Date: 2002-08-10 19:06:05 UTC
Re: [LbNA] To Jay Drew , CA: new box in S.F.Bay Area
From: BB (bburk@harbornet.com) |
Date: 2002-08-10 14:08:47 UTC-07:00
So what does this have to do with Letterboxing?
I don't see a log book and stamp listed??
----- Original Message -----
From: "lizardbuttsfamily"
To:
Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2002 12:06 PM
Subject: [LbNA] To Jay Drew , CA: new box in S.F.Bay Area
> The Stinky Marsh Crab
>
> Located at Crown Beach, Robert W. Crown Memorial Park, Alameda, CA.
> For Directions go www.ebparks.org/parks/crown.html
> Park at the visitor's center on McKay Ave.
> This is a hybrid box.
>
>
> Follow the walkway heading southeast.
> The land of the rocks will be on your right.
> The guards of the rocks are very protective, so don't go there.
> Walk past the mariner in the lagoon.
> Find the way to the secluded pool.
> Walk over the wooden bridge.
> On the right, just after the bridge, hidden in the cattails is the
> way you must go.
> Be brave, you are almost there.
> Now, to the land of the licorice plants, take the path on the left.
> Towards the far end of the row is where you must go.
> Hidden down low in the licorice plants is where the marsh crab likes
> to hide.
>
>
> Enjoy the beach!
>
>
>
> Contents of the box:
>
> Sebastian the crab
> Pegasus
> Some small insects
> A couple of greeting cards
> Golf tees
> Scooby-Doo band-aids
> Superball
> A small bag of toys
>
>
>
>
> To unsubscribe: mailto:letterbox-usa-unsubscribe@egroups.com
> List info, archives, etc: http://www.letterboxing.org/list.html
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
>
I don't see a log book and stamp listed??
----- Original Message -----
From: "lizardbuttsfamily"
To:
Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2002 12:06 PM
Subject: [LbNA] To Jay Drew , CA: new box in S.F.Bay Area
> The Stinky Marsh Crab
>
> Located at Crown Beach, Robert W. Crown Memorial Park, Alameda, CA.
> For Directions go www.ebparks.org/parks/crown.html
> Park at the visitor's center on McKay Ave.
> This is a hybrid box.
>
>
> Follow the walkway heading southeast.
> The land of the rocks will be on your right.
> The guards of the rocks are very protective, so don't go there.
> Walk past the mariner in the lagoon.
> Find the way to the secluded pool.
> Walk over the wooden bridge.
> On the right, just after the bridge, hidden in the cattails is the
> way you must go.
> Be brave, you are almost there.
> Now, to the land of the licorice plants, take the path on the left.
> Towards the far end of the row is where you must go.
> Hidden down low in the licorice plants is where the marsh crab likes
> to hide.
>
>
> Enjoy the beach!
>
>
>
> Contents of the box:
>
> Sebastian the crab
> Pegasus
> Some small insects
> A couple of greeting cards
> Golf tees
> Scooby-Doo band-aids
> Superball
> A small bag of toys
>
>
>
>
> To unsubscribe: mailto:letterbox-usa-unsubscribe@egroups.com
> List info, archives, etc: http://www.letterboxing.org/list.html
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
>
Re: [LbNA] To Jay Drew , CA: new box in S.F.Bay Area
From: "Tig" (mainetig@yahoo.com) |
Date: 2002-08-10 14:47:10 UTC-07:00
Sounds like a cool spot - but it appears as though you have geocaching
and letterboxing mixed up a bit here.
In letterboxing, each box contains a stamp (hand made or store bought)
and a log book. Sometimes an inkpad, pen/pencil, or info on the sport
is also included. The only thing exchanged in a letterbox are the
seeker's personal stamp and the boxes stamp. Not trinkits as in
geocaching - and as appear to be listed in your clue. (I am not a
geocacher, and only going on what I have read).
My suggestion to you is this. Either grab some GPS coordinates and
post it as a geocache on that site, add a stamp and log book to create
a hybrid box as many geochach/letterboxers have begun to do in some
areas, or plant a seperate letterbox in the same area.
Happy hunting!!
Tig
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and letterboxing mixed up a bit here.
In letterboxing, each box contains a stamp (hand made or store bought)
and a log book. Sometimes an inkpad, pen/pencil, or info on the sport
is also included. The only thing exchanged in a letterbox are the
seeker's personal stamp and the boxes stamp. Not trinkits as in
geocaching - and as appear to be listed in your clue. (I am not a
geocacher, and only going on what I have read).
My suggestion to you is this. Either grab some GPS coordinates and
post it as a geocache on that site, add a stamp and log book to create
a hybrid box as many geochach/letterboxers have begun to do in some
areas, or plant a seperate letterbox in the same area.
Happy hunting!!
Tig
__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs
http://www.hotjobs.com
Re: [LbNA] To Jay Drew , CA: new box in S.F.Bay Area
From: "Tig" (mainetig@yahoo.com) |
Date: 2002-08-10 14:47:49 UTC-07:00
Sounds like a cool spot - but it appears as though you have geocaching
and letterboxing mixed up a bit here.
In letterboxing, each box contains a stamp (hand made or store bought)
and a log book. Sometimes an ink pad, pen/pencil, or info on the sport
is also included. The only thing exchanged in a letterbox are the
seeker's personal stamp and the boxes stamp. Not trinkets as in
geocaching - and as appear to be listed in your clue. (I am not a
geocacher, and only going on what I have read).
My suggestion to you is this. Either grab some GPS coordinates and
post it as a geocache on that site, add a stamp and log book to create
a hybrid box as many geochach/letterboxers have begun to do in some
areas, or plant a separate letterbox in the same area.
Happy hunting!!
Tig
__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs
http://www.hotjobs.com
and letterboxing mixed up a bit here.
In letterboxing, each box contains a stamp (hand made or store bought)
and a log book. Sometimes an ink pad, pen/pencil, or info on the sport
is also included. The only thing exchanged in a letterbox are the
seeker's personal stamp and the boxes stamp. Not trinkets as in
geocaching - and as appear to be listed in your clue. (I am not a
geocacher, and only going on what I have read).
My suggestion to you is this. Either grab some GPS coordinates and
post it as a geocache on that site, add a stamp and log book to create
a hybrid box as many geochach/letterboxers have begun to do in some
areas, or plant a separate letterbox in the same area.
Happy hunting!!
Tig
__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs
http://www.hotjobs.com
Re: [LbNA] To Jay Drew , CA: new box in S.F.Bay Area
From: astonished_1 (drgore11@earthlink.net) |
Date: 2002-08-10 22:20:41 UTC
BB-
Being somewhat of a newbie myself, I would've thought for sure that
someone as seasoned in letterboxing as you would've recognized what a
hybrid box is and consists of.
Just in case you don't though... A hybrid box is a combination of a
Geo-cache AND a letterbox. It seems that the owner of this box chose
to share the geo-cache contents in the post AND since it is a hybrid
letterbox presumed that readers on the letterbox boards would know
that there is a stamp and log in the box.
If I can be of any more assistance, just let me know.
--- In letterbox-usa@y..., "BB" wrote:
> So what does this have to do with Letterboxing?
> I don't see a log book and stamp listed??
>
Being somewhat of a newbie myself, I would've thought for sure that
someone as seasoned in letterboxing as you would've recognized what a
hybrid box is and consists of.
Just in case you don't though... A hybrid box is a combination of a
Geo-cache AND a letterbox. It seems that the owner of this box chose
to share the geo-cache contents in the post AND since it is a hybrid
letterbox presumed that readers on the letterbox boards would know
that there is a stamp and log in the box.
If I can be of any more assistance, just let me know.
--- In letterbox-usa@y..., "BB"
> So what does this have to do with Letterboxing?
> I don't see a log book and stamp listed??
>
Re: [LbNA] To Jay Drew , CA: new box in S.F.Bay Area
From: BB (bburk@harbornet.com) |
Date: 2002-08-10 21:28:58 UTC-07:00
No, I recognize that geocaching and letterboxing are different activities.,
and I see no reason to mix the two.
It will only create additional traffic to a place that shouldn't have
traffic to it to begin with.
Every time someone steps off the trail it causes damage to the environment
of that place. Before long there will be a path where there was none. There
will be trampled wild flowers where there once was beauty. In other words,
ruining the very thing we came to enjoy.
Think about it.....................
----
BB
----- Original Message -----
From: "astonished_1"
To:
Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2002 3:20 PM
Subject: Re: [LbNA] To Jay Drew , CA: new box in S.F.Bay Area
> BB-
> Being somewhat of a newbie myself, I would've thought for sure that
> someone as seasoned in letterboxing as you would've recognized what a
> hybrid box is and consists of.
>
> Just in case you don't though... A hybrid box is a combination of a
> Geo-cache AND a letterbox. It seems that the owner of this box chose
> to share the geo-cache contents in the post AND since it is a hybrid
> letterbox presumed that readers on the letterbox boards would know
> that there is a stamp and log in the box.
>
> If I can be of any more assistance, just let me know.
>
> --- In letterbox-usa@y..., "BB" wrote:
> > So what does this have to do with Letterboxing?
> > I don't see a log book and stamp listed??
> >
>
>
>
>
> To unsubscribe: mailto:letterbox-usa-unsubscribe@egroups.com
> List info, archives, etc: http://www.letterboxing.org/list.html
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
>
and I see no reason to mix the two.
It will only create additional traffic to a place that shouldn't have
traffic to it to begin with.
Every time someone steps off the trail it causes damage to the environment
of that place. Before long there will be a path where there was none. There
will be trampled wild flowers where there once was beauty. In other words,
ruining the very thing we came to enjoy.
Think about it.....................
----
BB
----- Original Message -----
From: "astonished_1"
To:
Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2002 3:20 PM
Subject: Re: [LbNA] To Jay Drew , CA: new box in S.F.Bay Area
> BB-
> Being somewhat of a newbie myself, I would've thought for sure that
> someone as seasoned in letterboxing as you would've recognized what a
> hybrid box is and consists of.
>
> Just in case you don't though... A hybrid box is a combination of a
> Geo-cache AND a letterbox. It seems that the owner of this box chose
> to share the geo-cache contents in the post AND since it is a hybrid
> letterbox presumed that readers on the letterbox boards would know
> that there is a stamp and log in the box.
>
> If I can be of any more assistance, just let me know.
>
> --- In letterbox-usa@y..., "BB"
> > So what does this have to do with Letterboxing?
> > I don't see a log book and stamp listed??
> >
>
>
>
>
> To unsubscribe: mailto:letterbox-usa-unsubscribe@egroups.com
> List info, archives, etc: http://www.letterboxing.org/list.html
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
>
Re: [LbNA] To Jay Drew , CA: new box in S.F.Bay Area
From: astonished_1 (drgore11@earthlink.net) |
Date: 2002-08-11 13:35:35 UTC
I was determined to reply with a witty and cunning post but felt that
such a post would only meet with ignorance and lack of understanding-
again.
I would desperately like to get back to the discussion of fun,
adventure, challenge and evolution of Letterboxing.
Just know though...I believe this is one reason why the dinosaurs
died out, the inability to adapt to change.
--- In letterbox-usa@y..., "BB" wrote:
> No, I recognize that geocaching and letterboxing are different
activities.,
> and I see no reason to mix the two.
> It will only create additional traffic to a place that shouldn't
have
> traffic to it to begin with.
> Every time someone steps off the trail it causes damage to the
environment
> of that place. Before long there will be a path where there was
none. There
> will be trampled wild flowers where there once was beauty. In other
words,
> ruining the very thing we came to enjoy.
> Think about it.....................
> ----
> BB
such a post would only meet with ignorance and lack of understanding-
again.
I would desperately like to get back to the discussion of fun,
adventure, challenge and evolution of Letterboxing.
Just know though...I believe this is one reason why the dinosaurs
died out, the inability to adapt to change.
--- In letterbox-usa@y..., "BB"
> No, I recognize that geocaching and letterboxing are different
activities.,
> and I see no reason to mix the two.
> It will only create additional traffic to a place that shouldn't
have
> traffic to it to begin with.
> Every time someone steps off the trail it causes damage to the
environment
> of that place. Before long there will be a path where there was
none. There
> will be trampled wild flowers where there once was beauty. In other
words,
> ruining the very thing we came to enjoy.
> Think about it.....................
> ----
> BB
Re: [LbNA] To Jay Drew , CA: new box in S.F.Bay Area
From: springchick1219 (springchick1219@attbi.com) |
Date: 2002-08-11 15:39:20 UTC
Over the past few days I've watched with mild interest as the
comments about newbies and hybrid boxes and first finders, etc. have
gone around. Being a newbie, I was a little put out by the
generalizations made about newbies trying to rewrite the rules, but
realize it was not the opinion shared by everyone.
It has been stressed on the LbNA site, on several personal sites and
within this group that there are no rules. That is a double-edged
sword. It leaves the door open to creativity, which is appealing to
most and allows a person to participate in the hobby from their angle
of interest. It also leaves the door open for things such as geo-
cache/letterbox hybrids.
On the other hand, one of the things that intrigues me about
letterboxing is it's history and personally I would like to see the
hobby in the U.S. hold as close to it's Dartmoor roots as possible,
understanding that time and circumstance necessitates some
modifications to the game. In this respect I do not get excited when
I see things such as letterbox/geocache hybrids.
I do recognize the similarities between geocaching and letterboxing
and suppose if I were interested in both, I might try to find a way
to combine the two into one activity. However, I am not interested
in geo-caching so this hybridization does not interest me and makes
me feel as though the hobby of letterboxing is being pulled away from
it's roots. My viewpoint does not come from lack of knowledge or
technical ability, as I actually use a GPS as my compass when I
letterbox. I also mark each of my finds and plants with a user
waypoint on my GPS, for my own personal reference. I just think
letterboxing is about stamping log books and following clues, for the
most part non high-tech clues. Personally the little stash of
goodies contained in a geo-cache seems a bit trivial and immature to
me (even though I love Scooby-Do, I really have no interest in
scoring a Scooby-Do bandaid from a box in the woods), but then I am
40 years old and do not participate in this hobby with children, so
my angle on this may not be shared by everyone. Call it being a
dinosaur if you will... I'm not crazy about arena football either.
As for first finders... perhaps once you have reached the point of
finding several hundred boxes the thrill of being the first one to
stamp into a box loses it's excitement, but as a newbie, I got a bit
of an extra rush when I came upon a clean log book in the 3rd box I
hunted, and proudly noted this in the brief comments I left. I like
the idea of a First Finders Certificate, and am toying with this for
a future plant. Is this making changes to the hobby? I don't think
so, rather it is playing with creativity and every box already has a
differing level of creativity -- themes, hand-carved stamps, custom
made and designed log books, etc.
As for concerns about the environment and too many people trampling
an area. Yes, but that could happen as the hobby of letterboxing
grows, with or without the geo-caching hybridization. If an area is
truly that sensitive, there probably shouldn't be a box there.
Hopefully all of those who participate, from whichever angle their
interest comes, are being conscientious about the environment and the
areas they are traveling through.
Anyway, as this post demonstrates, we all have our opinions, and it
causes dissent within the group when we try to impose our opinions on
others or criticize those who do not share the same opinion. The
main idea is just to get out there and find and plant boxes and have
fun doing it. If I wear sandals and you wear purple socks, that's
okay.
Deb (SpringChick)
P5 F3 X0
--- In letterbox-usa@y..., "astonished_1" wrote:
> I was determined to reply with a witty and cunning post but felt
that
> such a post would only meet with ignorance and lack of
understanding-
> again.
>
> I would desperately like to get back to the discussion of fun,
> adventure, challenge and evolution of Letterboxing.
>
> Just know though...I believe this is one reason why the dinosaurs
> died out, the inability to adapt to change.
>
>
> --- In letterbox-usa@y..., "BB" wrote:
> > No, I recognize that geocaching and letterboxing are different
> activities.,
> > and I see no reason to mix the two.
> > It will only create additional traffic to a place that shouldn't
> have
> > traffic to it to begin with.
> > Every time someone steps off the trail it causes damage to the
> environment
> > of that place. Before long there will be a path where there was
> none. There
> > will be trampled wild flowers where there once was beauty. In
other
> words,
> > ruining the very thing we came to enjoy.
> > Think about it.....................
> > ----
> > BB
comments about newbies and hybrid boxes and first finders, etc. have
gone around. Being a newbie, I was a little put out by the
generalizations made about newbies trying to rewrite the rules, but
realize it was not the opinion shared by everyone.
It has been stressed on the LbNA site, on several personal sites and
within this group that there are no rules. That is a double-edged
sword. It leaves the door open to creativity, which is appealing to
most and allows a person to participate in the hobby from their angle
of interest. It also leaves the door open for things such as geo-
cache/letterbox hybrids.
On the other hand, one of the things that intrigues me about
letterboxing is it's history and personally I would like to see the
hobby in the U.S. hold as close to it's Dartmoor roots as possible,
understanding that time and circumstance necessitates some
modifications to the game. In this respect I do not get excited when
I see things such as letterbox/geocache hybrids.
I do recognize the similarities between geocaching and letterboxing
and suppose if I were interested in both, I might try to find a way
to combine the two into one activity. However, I am not interested
in geo-caching so this hybridization does not interest me and makes
me feel as though the hobby of letterboxing is being pulled away from
it's roots. My viewpoint does not come from lack of knowledge or
technical ability, as I actually use a GPS as my compass when I
letterbox. I also mark each of my finds and plants with a user
waypoint on my GPS, for my own personal reference. I just think
letterboxing is about stamping log books and following clues, for the
most part non high-tech clues. Personally the little stash of
goodies contained in a geo-cache seems a bit trivial and immature to
me (even though I love Scooby-Do, I really have no interest in
scoring a Scooby-Do bandaid from a box in the woods), but then I am
40 years old and do not participate in this hobby with children, so
my angle on this may not be shared by everyone. Call it being a
dinosaur if you will... I'm not crazy about arena football either.
As for first finders... perhaps once you have reached the point of
finding several hundred boxes the thrill of being the first one to
stamp into a box loses it's excitement, but as a newbie, I got a bit
of an extra rush when I came upon a clean log book in the 3rd box I
hunted, and proudly noted this in the brief comments I left. I like
the idea of a First Finders Certificate, and am toying with this for
a future plant. Is this making changes to the hobby? I don't think
so, rather it is playing with creativity and every box already has a
differing level of creativity -- themes, hand-carved stamps, custom
made and designed log books, etc.
As for concerns about the environment and too many people trampling
an area. Yes, but that could happen as the hobby of letterboxing
grows, with or without the geo-caching hybridization. If an area is
truly that sensitive, there probably shouldn't be a box there.
Hopefully all of those who participate, from whichever angle their
interest comes, are being conscientious about the environment and the
areas they are traveling through.
Anyway, as this post demonstrates, we all have our opinions, and it
causes dissent within the group when we try to impose our opinions on
others or criticize those who do not share the same opinion. The
main idea is just to get out there and find and plant boxes and have
fun doing it. If I wear sandals and you wear purple socks, that's
okay.
Deb (SpringChick)
P5 F3 X0
--- In letterbox-usa@y..., "astonished_1"
> I was determined to reply with a witty and cunning post but felt
that
> such a post would only meet with ignorance and lack of
understanding-
> again.
>
> I would desperately like to get back to the discussion of fun,
> adventure, challenge and evolution of Letterboxing.
>
> Just know though...I believe this is one reason why the dinosaurs
> died out, the inability to adapt to change.
>
>
> --- In letterbox-usa@y..., "BB"
> > No, I recognize that geocaching and letterboxing are different
> activities.,
> > and I see no reason to mix the two.
> > It will only create additional traffic to a place that shouldn't
> have
> > traffic to it to begin with.
> > Every time someone steps off the trail it causes damage to the
> environment
> > of that place. Before long there will be a path where there was
> none. There
> > will be trampled wild flowers where there once was beauty. In
other
> words,
> > ruining the very thing we came to enjoy.
> > Think about it.....................
> > ----
> > BB